If you are not on my email list, sign up at Craig Peterson dot com slash subscribe. AZ for the win. I was excited if it only took 1.5 hrs. I recently moved to southern California from New York City. by train: 1 hour with no transfers/switches I wouldnt recommend the Blue Line to anyone, not if they had other alternatives. Mine is pretty average, then. Ive had that experience a few times where Ill go to Los Angeles or through San Bernardino and catch the traffic at EXACTLY the wrong time. Plus I got hungry on that long commute. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/us/california-today-super-commutes-stockon.html, Link is in moderation, but the article is called California Today: The Rise of the Super Commuter. 2 hours isnot abnormal for this area. I mean because I've never had to do this drive on a regular basis for long periods of time. Now Im back to a 15-minute commute. This does not sound like a sustainable schedule. Granted my commute is about an hour each way, but I spend none of that actually behind the wheel of a car so I could spend it doing any number of useful and/or interesting things so I dont mind it so much. The other day I had to leave at 4 p.m. to take my cat to the vet at (6:30 p.m.!) I dont work work from home either, just happen to literally be able to walk to work. The time, the increased risk of harm, the wear and tear on your car and nerves. I had a coworker who did Pasadena Playa Del Rey. We weighed the options and decided wed rather have an awesome place to come home to rather than a bed in a bare room. So we had three phones going all with different routes. I, too, went to be by 9 and woke up at 5 left at 6:20 or so and got home around 7 or later. Best move I ever made. wheres the promotion I was promised months ago? Even working in Hollywood was about 35-60 minutes depending on how bad the traffic was on any particular day, or if say, a house on a trailer was left on the side of the 101 for three months and the city couldnt figure out what to do with it. But those are 6 very, very long miles if you drive. I used to commute on public transit and it took me 1.5 hours (on a good day, 1 hour 10). I think the plan would be to do this while I apply for jobs locally and move my life back home again. Taking the train or local Staten Island bus, to the Staten Island ferry, to the Manhattan subway, could easily take two hours from south-shore Staten Island to midtown Manhattan if a subway was delayed or the ferry was running a modified schedule. And if you paid extra for the express bus, and there was an accident jamming up one of the highways or bridges it literally could take shorter to fly from JFK to Florida than to travel 15 or so miles from Staten Island to Manhattan. I would factor in both the time of the commute and the variability. I might be spoiled, but I have too much to do to spend half my day in the car. And lived places where the only safe way home after dark was a taxi. Weve considered moving closer. Thats a really rough schedule (50 hours a week is no joke), and it doesnt sound ridiculous at all! I dont think L.A. is even 30 miles wide. Or if youre commuting from the Valley (Tracy/Manteca) to San Jose is from the central Alameda and CoCo County suburbs (Danville, San Ramon, Dublin/Livermore) to Silicon Valley. The average commute keeps getting LONGER. Yeah, Ive become very zen about traffic and crazy drivers after a year + of this commute, but my husband did end up getting me a dash cam after I recounted one too many crazy close call traffic accidents. This thread has really brought home for me that nobody would live in this deranged city if it werent for the weather :D. And it contributes to the insane housing prices. I would move closer to work but cant afford it. I still miss Shaw, but I figure once I graduate (! Absolutely fine. At the moment I'm working around 2-hours from where my extended family live, and I'm interested in moving back to the area since my daughter was born. Now Ive got to badge into a parking garage, park, walk across the street, take an escalator, badge into the right access area of the office complex, take an elevator, badge into the office with my 3rd badge, and use a key for my companys office space. Human drivers lack the coordination and have too high reaction time to pull this off, so things inefficiently grind to a halt of roads. I left home in the dark and got home in the dark, no matter what time of year it was. I think its definitely the right decision for you! For this area, its the cost of housing that drives people to live further away from the metro areas and creates those long commutes. But honestly, we cant figure out how to still live in NJ with under a 3-hour round trip commute. A common saying here is to live where you work and thats exactly what I did. Yeah, I think I would hate it a bit less if it was a quiet, chill train ride. I also go to the gym near work every morning which is important to me and couldnt really do that. I have other friends that live/travel on public transport in LA who get harassed by creeps, the homeless, & mentally ill people on almost a daily basis. In New York, my commute, door to door, from Soho to Bushwick was about 35-45 minutes, which included a 20-minute subway ride. Im not sure what you think Im suggesting, but just to be extra clear: I understand Southern California traffic is bananas. June 29, 2018/ Jim Parker What was the biggest news in the world of cycling in 2017? Thursday and Friday afternoons going northbound (away from NYC ) is the worst. Getting off and going home had no lucky 5 minute window. Now my commute is an easy 15 minutes. If I for some reason arrive at the park and ride after 8am, it can take forever to find a place to park and that will increase my commute. I am in the Midwest. Its pretty common there too, especially as a lot of people live in New Jersey, Connecticut, Long Island, etc. Id say move closer to your job, honestly, if you can. The LW is well within their reason to search for another job or another place to live. NOPE! I didnt want to go ahead and find a place in Anaheim and then find out I was gonna have to commute to Burbank every morning. The mitigating factor there was that I worked from home 2 days a week and had additional flexibility, otherwise it would have driven me insane. how much social media use at work is too much? Ez. I know its somewhat stupid but yeah. I recently visited NYC for the first time and left on a Monday morning to fly out of Newark. Most days, its at least an hour. But I know not everyone has that luxury. I had a one hour commute (from a suburb to a rural area, through farmland, 55 mph the whole way, no trafficso, not terrible at all except for the time and the fact that I hate driving) and it was killing me. There are only a handful of cities where you can really rely on public transportation. I once lived 45 miles from work, and I didnt mind it because I felt like it should take ~1 hr, and it did. I have so much more time and am generally happier. My preferred way north: didnt exist Its just not worth it. This is not a normal commute anywhere outside California or a handful of world megacities. I need to figure out parking at the new metra stop or find a new job. Best of luck finding something new. Were not even talking about using any freeways here that would be even longer. Now Im in NM and oh my, its wonderful and I never ever want to go back to a big city. I counted myself lucky, I had friends with commutes of 1-2 hours each way because of the limited options for affordable housing. Maybe in the Friday Open Thread? I cant imagine tolerating 2+ hours each way unless I lived somewhere with such a limited job market that there was no other choice, and no possibility of moving. Invest in it! Echoing all the other sentiments of normal is not necessarily ok or sustainable. But I work remotely 2-3 days a week and when Im home, my quality of life is so much better than it would be if I lived in northern NJ or NYC. Audiobooks keep my sanity. That is three hours a day or 15 hours a week that they waste in the car or train. Eventually, I found a gym near work, and would go there and get my workout in and wait for traffic to die down. The miserable part was just being completely uncertain on a day-to-day basis what it would be until Im actually out there on the road. :(, If you give me some idea of what you like, I can make audiobook recommendations! Its horrible LA drivers (sorry I said it), I constantly see accidents or almost accidents, its just stressful as hell. Seriously. I was commuting outward, and as someone new to the area, I foolishly assumed that Id be going opposite of traffic, and that it wouldnt be an issue. They offer typical traffic estimates. I hope you can find a new job, or possibly leave the area altogether. (And this is why were moving when our lease is up, because I can handle 45 min each way by car if it means I get to sleep another hour.). For a 60-mi. No matter how I adjusted it was still awful. Hopefully soon Ill get to spend more time at home. LA is opening new rail lines more frequently, so you might have a solution come up soon. LA traffic is the worst. Ill be sure to check those out! Brooklyn to Midtown Manhattan here, Im ~45 minutes door to door, ~60 if I get a seat on the local subway and decide to take it the whole way so I can get a nap in. If public transportation was an option, I think itd be reasonable too. I used to work 45 minutes away (office moved farther away) and had a 5:30 am 2 pm shift. I think its now an hour fifteen. An alternative, if you like biking, might be to bike to work would be the same amount of time! I couldnt take it mentally OR physically. I ultimately left a job I LOVED because the commute was not sustainable after 18 months. I learned that I am not good with long commutes so I have always chosen to live fairly close to where I work (in the same town). The alternative is working at a job in a small city that nobody with a mid-level income wants to live in (like I do now). (Think of Clueless, when Chers dad tells her Everywhere in LA takes 20 minutes. That is just for the city center of LA, like Hollywood to the Westside, on a good day. Ouch, that sounds grim. Im lucky that the apartment my husband and I moved into 12 years ago, before we had kids, has only had one rent increase in all that time. Music is a different matter, because I wont lose the plot if my mind drifts away for a bit. I do a 75-minute commute by public transport, but I live in London and an hour for the commute is pretty standard here. Id change jobs to avoid moresitting in traffic slays my zen. However, on days with excessive traffic or if there was an accident (which happened often), my commute could be between 3 to 4 hours. Audiobooks are common. Im currently listening to a couple of podcasts (AAM included! I hope you find a great job that is closer. (But noise canceling headphones fix that issue!). Public transit in San Francisco is really gross. Anything over than 30mins by car would be a nope for me. Ride share with a coworker and alternate driving days so that this time is your social time. Theres tons of people here in the same area disagreeing that 2 hours one way is normal. However, I am clear that this commute is bad for me, bad for my family, and Im going to do everything possible to move closer to work. It would be completely intolerable. Oops, I posted something else before I saw this. I also knew many many people who commuted to the central valley from the Bay Area on a daily basis because thats where they could afford to buy a house and that could be two hours each way which sounded like a nightmare (the commute and cost of housing is why I no longer live in CA). i would quit immediately (if moving is not an option). Its 4 5 miles between my house and the T station (depends on the route). She creates really unique / weird worlds. Thats below 15 mph the entire way. This post gave my traumatic flashbacks. My coworkers who lived in Manhattan Beach and had to take the 405 or Echo Park and took the 101 the whole way hated their lives. Oh shit. It gave pretty good estimates of the average commute times. My job before I was 3.5 miles from work and it took about 15 minutes in the morning (thanks to 13 traffic lights) and at least 30 minutes in the evening. Youre likely making some unwarranted assumptions on the basis oflets give you and everyone else the benefit of the doubt, and call it a combination of style and socioeconomics. People build up, not out, because we dont have NIMBYs. A 10 to 12 hour day with 3 hours travel and 6 hours of sleep leaves you with 3 to 5 hours a day for everything else. Interestingly enough, the only sketchy/uncomfortable experience Ive EVER had on LA Metro was on the Expo line late at night on the weekend. So, not unheard of & it happens in all parts of the country, but definitely terrible. You would think they would make a more robust commuter system there, but then again, I am not totally sold on how well we can manage train systems in this country either . OP, two hours might be fine for some people and might not be unusual in your area, but if you are finding it frustrating then Id say go ahead and either move or look for work closer to home. Now that I work in DC, I leave my house at 6:28am to catch a 6:35am train and get to work at 7:45am, but I take a commuter train and get to sleep for another 45 minutes. On his work-at-home days I really like the bus. My previous commute at my home base location was 20 minutes for 15 miles. It might not make the commute much shorter but at least you could relax and read a book. When I had a job in the San Fernando Valley the commute was fine because the traffic went in the opposite direction. Your response seems fairly normal (and not at all stupid!) In my line of work, there are not many opportunities closer to my house and if there are, the pay would not be nearly what it is in the city. Somewhat related: I just did my taxes this week and I never noticed before that theres a relocation benefit if youve moved for work. Take bus. My commute is similar to Hannahs and yes, it is faster to cycle, so I do when the weather is good! 6am hour -- power outtages impact Bellevue/Issaquah and eastern King County after overnight wind storms, still no new Republican House Speaker after 6 votes, US alpine skiing phenom Mikaela Shiffrin is about to topple some career records for women's skiing, Lynnwood WA . In my lifetime, it may actually make sense to ban humans from driving due to computers driving much more safely and efficiently. Like others have already said you have to do whats best for you and what you can tolerate. East Coast here: I drive 24 miles each way in Fairfield Cty, CT during rush hour. My commute would have been about 50 minutes, with the opportunity of a park-and-ride situation where half of that would have been on a train. Im sure 2 hours is a totally normal travel time for the distance the OP is driving. Where in OC? Hes pretty much resigned to the fact that hes going to have a commute wherever he lands. Public transit is not that amazing, especially if you are outside the city core. Doing a recomp will also depend massively on your diet and sleep quality. Its weird that your boyfriends response is, everybodys doing it (we arent, I promise.). It would take me only 15 min longer to walk, which I should probably start doing! Oh, I agree! Thatd be an increase of 1500/month vs what were paying for our house here (so 18,000 a year difference in housing cost, plus the fact you dont get equity). Turned 75min commutes on the 10 into a 15 minute longboard down the boardwalk. Evening commute (after 6 pm) is actually a little faster average is 45 minutes, up to 70 minutes. A commute of 40-45 minutes per day is good for this area. The difference was really that my commute usually had just a quick moment of traffic right by my office (government office surrounded by lots of other government offices, with thousands of people all leaving at the same time), and his was about 20 miles closer, but stop and go the whole way! Thankfully, he likes to listen to podcasts and audio books, so he wont mind as much (I cant listen to them 30 seconds in, and my mind wanders and I miss the whole thing). OP said flex time is very likely not an option, unfortunately. But driving, I dont want to spend more than an hour a day in the car. Parts of California are very affordable just not the parts near a major city. It all depends on the roads. He is 3.5 years old and never has accidents on these days (although he is ready to go out as soon as I get home). The longest commute Ive ever had was an hour each way, and I regret doing it even for the 2.5 years I did, because it really impacted my stress levels and quality of life. A lot of people, a lot of cars, not a lot of trains, and limited road options because of the terrain. He mostly works an 11am-7pm schedule so his commute is only 45 min. 40 x 5 = 200, or over 3 hours. Experiment with routes and see if theres some alternatives that work for you. People often get priced out of the living areas close to work. And now I am a champion road trip driver and change my sense of how far is far to go. Im about 45-50 minutes in the car (9 miles of stop-and-go). Thankfully, the secretary graciously offered to begin picking me up at the nearby train station, cutting my commute by about 40-45 minutes. So one car stopping for a moment has just caused a 20 second delay with only ten cars. Also, Metro is beefing up security on lines and I would always see sherriffs on board checking fares. My commute now is 35 minutes walking, 12 minutes by bike or bus. I dont know how people drive standards here ;). This 30-year-old commutes 4 hours and 140 miles for work in San Francisco every day. Ill never go back to the stress of traffic jam commuting. Once I figured that out, I started walking the 6 miles to work in San Francisco. Actual experience trumps book learning every time. Were in Texas, but right now my partners commute by transit is 2 hours each way so I take him in the mornings, which makes the commute for him 30 minutes but easily 70-90 minutes for me round trip, plus my own 10 minute commute to work. And I hate it. I have friends up in Tarzana, and Ive grown to prefer taking the Amtrak or metrolink to union station, and then the redline to north Hollywood and the orange line busway to Reseda. my toxic former employee is poisoning my staff, my employee blows up my phone with memes and videos even in the middle of the night and refuses to stop, VP is pressuring everyone into choreographed dances, boss eats while on the phone, and more, I got in trouble for using a mouse jiggler despite my excellent work, 10 impressive questions to ask in a job interview, my employee doesnt think were doing enough about bears at work, I caught my employee in a compromising position in the parking lot, employer only gives raises for promotions months later, and more. If the latter, I would like to gently urge you to consider reconsidering, or at least experimenting to see if reality aligns with your expectations. I know I couldnt do it. Get my gun! Boston commutes are about 1 hour and many commute between Massachusetts and Providence up to an hour. Hen youll have to switch jobs, OP, or work out some telework arrangement. It sucks and its not great, but it sounds like the boyfriend is saying this is pretty much a problem no matter what job she has. Mmm, Ive been exposed to a fair amount of crime (professionally, not as a perp or victim, thankfully). A "virtual" commute, so to speak. I loved riding the bus to work in Manhattan. Thats why people consider dating people who live on opposite ends of LA to be long-distance relationships. Were trying to move up our moving plans by several months because of this. My max is 1 hour. Not a thing I could do about it. I have lived in the LA area most of my life. I would also argue its merging/splitting of freeways that brings 8 lanes to 2 for a mile stretch, and the consequent lane changes that can cause accidents. For a while, my husband and I were both commuting in opposite directions from our house, each taking roughly an hour. Get up at 5AM and do it all again. Ive been running after aliens in 4-inch heels and Mulder just does not appreciate that as much as he should. If I moved to the mountains, barring a resort town I found find the same Im sure. Right now my commute is 45 minutes by bus, which I love. The trains are generally safe, but they are still public transportation. Yeah, seriously. Im lucky in that I can afford to live about 10 miles away from where I work, but before that, I had to live about 30 miles away from work because thats what my family could afford. 30 miles where? My office mate commutes from about 30 miles away and it takes her almost two hours. Plus, youve probably noticed by now that LA drivers are horrible ignoring red lights, racing up shoulders, etc. So which one we shop at is based entirely on who is driving that day. It sounds like OP is out by Montebello Gardens or Monterey Park and driving through or into DTLA, Burbank, Pasadena or the west side. It's quite a chunk out of your day. I didnt love it, but it wasnt too bad since it wasnt a straight-up crawl unless there was an accident. It really boils down to population density and job density. NOTHING on earth would be worth a 4+ hour commute like that for me. Someone I know did the Westside to the SGV (San Gabriel Valley) commute. is it rude to leave a coworker waiting for the elevator, I recommended a friend and it went terribly, and more. Thank you everyone for your advice, it definitely played a part in my decision. He drives, takes a bus to Dublin and takes BART from there. I encourage the LW to either move closer to work and/or to find a job with a shorter commute. Check out audiobooks! My prefferred way south was always PCH. Driving is at least an hour and twenty minutes and it is killing me. On the road by 6AM There is some swearing, if you worry about that thing. For my next job I am trying very hard to not have to cross the river. I dont mind driving 35 to 40 minutes for work, but I absolutely hate SITTING in traffic for that amount of time. Im wary of any directions and side streets not given to me by locals. My own commute is 15 minutes and that includes a stop to get breakfast. Ill take my smaller midwestern city (metro population of about 2.5 million) where I can get to work in less than 30 minutes and I dont need to sell a vital organ so that I can afford to buy a house or rent a decent apartment. I think thats what trapped me into taking the job. Agreed. I definitely increased my data plan when I was commuting on rail so I could watch Netflix and Now TV on the train. You listen to KCRW or podcasts and eventually adjust. Yes I am so on board for self driving cars just because of commuting!! As Allison said, its not unheard of. That does seem excessive, especially given the distance. Be careful of the cost implications though, increasing mileage might bump your insurance costs up. I did the same thing when I was house hunting since I was pretty committed to the job. This is interesting to hear! Right now Im at about 45-50 minutes depending on metro waits. Plus, its Florida and OP is in southern California, so I doubt that we could survive the heat (not to mention the frequent summer rainstorms here in the summer). I also live in LB, and I previously commuted to Culver City/Marina del Rey. This is your "gross margin" time or "pre-time-tax margin." Someone I knew moved to LA shortly after college and lived there for almost 15 years. When I was commuting 45 minutes on my bike, even in wintry conditions, I had other young and healthy friends who said I dont understand how you can bike that far, I would never but ultimately I enjoyed it. )even the drive to school wasnt that bad! Moving to a huge metro area later taught me as someone who needs time between leaving and arriving at work, 45 minutes is my absolute max for city commutes and 1.5 for country miles. 710 is usually fine. Say you didnt realize the reality of LA traffic and your current situation is not sustainable in the longterm, and what makes sense from here? I just want to point out that normal doesnt mean anything if youre suffering so much. Yeaaaa id say a 30 mile by car commute is risky no matter where you live, especially if its a major city and ESPECIALLY if its somewhere like LA. I wouldnt be able to do it but they make it work for them. Ive ridden the train about a dozen times from LB up to downtown around 5ish (to go to Staples center) and its always been fine. I was thinking it would be easier if she did it near work but shes already doing that. Im running out of podcasts to binge. But its much more relaxing than driving from Toronto to Barrie. If Its an hour Id prefer to be walking or using public transit though hate being stuck in a car. Ive got two young kids I never get time to myself at home before their bedtime. Ha ha. California traffic has long been the butt of jokes. Its more common/normal than folks think, though (this is the problem with averagesvery short commutes and long commutes offset each other). You should go be an interpreter at the Long Beach courthouse. Right now my commute is 10 minutes, 15 minutes if there is heavy traffic. You probably wont get this unless you commute in CA, did he say its the first day of spring? If its just a paycheck.Id be looking elsewhere or to move. Why would anyone live 30 miles away from work? I occasionally used to do a 60 mile return commute - that was way too much time out of the house - looking at 13 hours from leaving home to getting back. Now I dont even use half of it (but my Wifi at home is bad and so I dont want to get rid of it). My average drive time is between 50 and 90 minutes each way for 15 miles. It doesnt seem impossible that theres 30 miles of road (point-A-to-point-B) between OPs home and workplace. The city was definitely designed with cars in mind and commuting by bike would be a nightmare. Right now Im willing to make less money to work at a job with flexible hours (I work 7am-3/4pm) so I can avoid traffic. Until the position currently hold, I was lucky to have 20-30 minute commutes. The #1 subreddit for Brits and non-Brits to ask questions about life and culture in the United Kingdom. This is totally normal for Los Angeles (Im a SoCal native who has lived here all my life). I imagine that in retail or food service, you are more likely to pick a job based on location, because theres not that many other differences between employers? Although I was in school for the first few years in LA, I also consider this a commute. ), have you considered Metrolink? Oh, and my old commute had 17 traffic lights. I dont think there are any good options here for your. Biking 10 miles in that sounds like a recipe for heat stroke. I meant to say cycling is more* tolerable than driving. Its not my favorite thing in the world but Im willing to do it for family reasons, and given how many people I see taking the train with me I know Im not the only one! LA has decent public transit! Commutes in more congested cities are like that, unfortunately. Signed, And if your car breaks down, it's gonna be a difficult and lengthy public transport commute to work. Oh, missed the only twice a week bit. I recently moved to Magnolia, about 6 miles to my office. We plan on moving closer to my husbands work as soon as we hit the 2 year mark of owning our condo and can sell it without being taxed. I hear you. I lived in hollywood, worked in Brentwood. Im work in Milwaukee and live in the suburbs. There are people commuting from Sacramento to San Franciscono kidding! I dont think it necessarily was, though. 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